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Have The Events of Revelation Begun?

Have the events of The Book of Revelation had a start of being fulfilled? Consider.

The events of The Book of Revelation are said to have fulfillment in “The Lords Day.” (Revelation 1:10)

By inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a strong voice like that of a trumpet.

Unless you believe that we are now in the Lord’s Day, you would have to produce evidence that we are.

I know that Jehovah’s Witnesses say it began back in 1914.

Firstly, how can a date such as this be derived? (Matthew 24:36, 42; Acts 1:7, Mark 13:32).

Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU do not know on what day YOUR Lord is coming.

So Scripturally, and more importantly, according to Christ, it cannot be done.

Secondly, Jesus’ disciples asked him what sign – not signs – would indicate his return and the end of this age. In other word, his future day. (Matthew 24:3)

That sign – not signs – is mentioned at Matthew 24:30 after other events – including the Great Tribulation – would have already have ended. The Great Tribulation is yet future. Therefore, if the Great Tribulation is yet future, then the sign at Matthew 24:30 has not appeared yet. Thus, the Lord’s Day has not begun and is still future.

Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. (Matthew 24:29-30)

Since the events of Revelation are to have fulfillment in the Lord’s Day, the Beasts of Revelation have not ascended yet. We have no way of knowing who they are. All anyone today can do is speculate.

All we can do is learn of what they will do when they do ascend out of their respective locations (sea and earth).

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R. Jerome Harris

No one of importance. A disciple (student) of Christ apart from the established religious systems who reasons, thinks and concludes matters for myself. Something is not right with the state of religion in the world. The real dichotomy is that we live in a world so full of religion, yet is an evil, immoral, and dangerous place to live. A mental and spiritual separation from this world that Jesus said his kingdom is no part of is the first step to a "break-through" to freedom and entry into a much larger spiritual world where God and Christ resides and the wisdom, knowledge, and understanding of God can be accessed.

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    1. A literal Sunday? If that is true, then all of the events within the Book of Revelation would have fulfillment within a 24 hour day? Consider that John also mentions as occurring within the “Lord’s Day” that Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. How does one squeeze 1000 years into a 24 hour Sunday? Another point to consider: Where is it written that Sunday is that Day? Is this not an assumption men make?

  1. Actually, whether you call it the ‘sabbath’ or ‘Lord’s Day’, John was simply telling us that he had his vision (or, was in the spirit, or, in an ecstatic or out-of-body state) on the last day of the week, He could have had it on any of the other six days of the week.

    It is a common practice in the old testament books, to begin chapters by saying what month and day it was. Here’s one example:

    Ezekiel 8:1 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in
    the fifth day of the month, as I sat in my house, and the elders
    of Judah sat before me, that the Hand-of-my-Adonai-YHWH
    fell there upon me.
    Ezekiel 8:2 Then I beheld, and lo, a likeness as the Appearance of fire:
    from the Appearance of his waist downwards is fire; and from
    his waist upwards, the Appearance is of brightness with the
    color of amber.
    Ezekiel 8:3 And he put forth the form of a hand, and took me by a lock of
    my head; The spirit lifted me up between the Earth and the
    heavens, and brought me in the visions by Elohim to Jerusalem,
    to the door of the inner gate that faces toward the north,
    where there was the seat of the image-of-the-jealousy, the one
    provoking to jealousy.

    So, Ezekiel had his vision on the tenth day of the month; and John had his vision on the last day of the week. John was shown things in a vision on the last day of the week; but I really do not see how that makes it a necessity for what he was shown, to all take place in 24 hours. For everything to happen on a Sunday (or Saturday) makes no sense, nor is that required in the vision he was shown.

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