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Did Jesus Teach Water Baptism

by R. Jerome Harris on April 26, 2015

John the Baptizer said at Matthew 3:11 that it was his own baptism that would be a baptism in water. He says …

I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Doctor Luke (yes, he was a physician) said at Acts 1:5 that disciples of Christ WOULD NOT be baptized with water but with another type of baptism: Holy Spirit. He says:

For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.

So what in the world are people doing getting baptized in the manner of John the Baptizer? Are they his disciples or Jesus' disciples? Is John the Baptizer their Lord or is Jesus their Lord? Who is perpetrating this lie of water baptism?The answer is the enemy of God and Christ. I wolf in sheeps clothing: The religious system called, created and named by men, Christianity.

Listen to this podcast as I explain to you the truth about baptism and whose baptism one should be seeking. I also encourage all who listen to reach out to The Most High God and Father of us all – in private and by prayer through Christ – that God give them his wisdom, understanding and knowledge.

If one seek his own understanding, wisdom and knowledge then they will never receive or know the truth. One must put full reliance, faith and confidence in the Father as our Lord and Master Jesus Christ did.

More an indepth article please read: Did Christ Establish Water Baptism?

Podcast Length: 29:47

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Daz May 26, 2015 at 11:03 am

Matthew 28:19 – "Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit."

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R. Jerome Harris May 28, 2015 at 1:33 am

That’s right! Why would you assume this baptism is with water? Jesus told his disciples that he would send them Holy Spirit. Once they received it, they would baptize others with it. We see this example at Pentecost 33 when 120 disciples of Christ received a baptism by holy spirit. What did those 120 disciples do after they received it? They baptized 3000 with holy spirit and then 5000 more. NO WATER!  It was simply a matter of them speaking (teaching) and the listeners believing. (Acts Chapters 2 and 4)

This baptism would be in the name of THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. Not in the name of THE FATHER, THE SON AND WATER.

I maintain for all of those who believe Jesus spoke of baptizing with water produce the proof and pattern. They cannot. We do not see Jesus baptizing any of his disciples with water and neither do we see examples of Jesus disciples making other disciples and baptizing them with water.

We do see disciplemaking via baptism with holy spirit as I described above. 

I am amazed that the baptism of John the Baptizer is what people today want and defend rather than the greater baptism of Christ Jesus. 

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Daz May 28, 2015 at 4:23 pm

Yes I see this, it is with Holy Spirit they baptize. I guess the significance of water baptizm is a public symbolic show of repentance, washing yourself clean of sin.

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R. Jerome Harris May 29, 2015 at 1:25 am

It is not with holy spirit “THEY” baptize. It is with holy spirit “Jesus” baptizes.

“The question one should be asking is “Who” made water baptism a public show of repentance? Did The Most High God? Did Jesus? No! It has been religious organizations who have stated this. Since when to we place the words of Christ above those of men? When I was one of JWs I was told that water baptism is “a public symbolic show of repentance, washing yourself clean of sin.” But this no not where stated by Christ in Scripture.

Additionally, we (humans) have no power to wash ourselves clean of sin. Plus, sin is not something that can be washed away from anyone with water. How many people do you (and I) know who got baptized with water and they still sin?

The GREATER baptism with Holy Spirit is far more powerful than that of John the Baptizer. Jesus’ baptism does far more than just for repentance of sin, his baptism FORGIVES sin and when we are baptized with Holy Spirit, we teach others what Christ taught us and in that way they too receive the baptism in Holy Spirit. (Matthew 28:19-20)

At hearing the truth about God and Christ (Christs teachings) AND accepting it, the person will receive that baptism. It is quiet, personal with no fanfare, but yet powerful and enlightening. When you receive it, you WILL ALREADY have accepted the truth about God and Christ. You will not receive it having not accepting the truth. Why? Because you cannot baptize others with Holy Spirit if you have not accepted the truth.

Like Jesus said to the Jews at John 8:31-32:

“If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free.”

With regards the Jews back then, free from keeping the law covenant but also concerning anyone who would be his disciples, free and clear to receive that baptism with holy spirit.

We must be careful not to let religious organizations put in our minds what Christ did not teach. The biggest evidence that water baptism died with John the Baptizer is that we see no evidence of Christ baptizing his disciples (not even the Apostles) with water; or his disciples baptizing each other with water. If water baptism was something Jesus instituted, then the Bible would be saturated with such examples. It is simply not there.

The problem is that few truly listen to God and Christ. They listen to men and their religious organizations.

The Most High God stated at Luke 9:35:

“This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him.”

If Christ never spoke of his disciples being baptized in water and we so not one example that he did (or that his disciples did), then why should I listen to ANY religious organization who says that water baptism a public symbolic show of repentance, washing yourself clean of sin. They are making it up.

In my article on this subject, I explain why Jesus allowed John the Baptizer to baptize him with water. Jesus had no sin to wash away! It was for another reason: To show that Johns disciplemaking work ends and so will his baptism. A new disciplemaking work begins with a new baptism. That is why we see holy spirit come upon Jesus. That is, to show that THAT would be the new baptism. Not from earthly water below, but from heaven above.

I could write a book on this subject. Sadly, the world has missed the boat on this one. Not surprised as we all know who this world belongs to. Thus, it is logical that the wicked one would promote this lie and have the entire world practicing the ritual of a dead man.

 

 

 

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Daz May 30, 2015 at 9:41 am

Is it not "they" that are baptizing on behalf Christ & our Father in Heaven, although obviously it is not the disciples that possess or dispense the Holy Spirit but it is still them asking for it in the name of Christ when the baptism takes place is it not?

R. Jerome Harris May 31, 2015 at 1:57 am

Daz, Look at this way.

The command Jesus gave at Matthew 28:19-20 reads as follows:

"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Now ask yourself, "Whose baptism was Jesus referring to? His or John the Baptizers?"

Why would Jesus have persons who would be his disciples be baptized with John's baptism? Jesus did not say baptize them with water. He said to baptize the disciples they make "in the name of The Father, The Son (his baptism) and the Holy Spirit (the baptism itself).

What I am really trying to get so many to see is that when they hear the the expression "baptism" used, they should not assume it is with water. But that is what they do. They have actually ignored the greater baptism.

If Jesus commanded us (that is, his disciples), to baptize "in the name of The Father, The Son (his baptism) and the Holy Spirit (the baptism itself), then that would mean that the holy spirit he gives us, we, in turn give it to others. The baptism is the hearing and accepting the teachings of Christ. Once you KNOW THE TRUTH, you teach it to others and THEY now have it. They, in turn, teach others and so on and so on. It is like the two fishes and five loaves.

That is why Jesus says at Matthew 28:20:  "teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you."

The baptism is listening to and accepting the teachings of Christ, the truth. It begins with acknowledging the source of that truth: The Holy Father in Heaven. And, then the bearer of that truth, The Son and Word of God who is also Holy. And, accepting the Word, which is the baptism itself with Holy Spirit.

Jesus made reference to himself as being THE NEW WATER. That new water is the truth of this teachings, not literal water. Jesus said at John 4:14:

"But whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

Three things to notice here about what Jesus said: (1) He mentioned "drinking water" not being immersed in it. (2) He would given his disciples this water, not John the Baptizer (baptism with water) and (3) accepting the water JESUS gives us leads to eternal life.

It is obvious that the water Jesus was referring to was his teachings. When persons listens and accepts his teachings (drinking), they receive his baptism with Holy Spirit and they qualify for eternal life.

Christs teachings did not end with his ascension. His teachings are not confined in a book called the Bible. His teachings – many of which are NOT in a book – continues to flow to us from the Father, through Christ to us. Jesus said at Matthew 28:20:

"And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Jesus said that he would send us (his disciples) Holy Spirit at Luke 24:49:

"I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high." (Also read John 14:16, John 16:7, Acts 1:5 and Acts 2:4)

So his disciples DID and WOULD possess Holy Spirit to spead and give to others.

Jesus himself said at  Acts 1:4-5:

"On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit."

Notice Jesus did not tell his disciples that they would be baptized with BOTH water and Holy Spirit. No! Just with Holy Spirit. (John was dead and so was his baptism with water).

If one listens to Christ, there would not be a problem with accepting his teaching about their being only one baptism: His, with Holy Spirit.

But the world is fighting Christs teachings and his baptism. Primarily the ones claiming to follow Christ are the ones opposing (anti) Christ. They fight had to teach and accept a baptism that is NOT from Christ. The world has been misled as Christ said it would about the truth of His Father and himself.

Again, we do not see Jesus baptizing his disciples with water, do we? Neither so we see his disciples baptizing persons who would be Christs disciples with water. If water baptism was Jesus' baptism, the Bible should be saturated with examples of it. It simply is not there.

I know many people who are loyal to their respective churches or religious organizations that teach water baptism. I fully understand the personal attachment. For a long time, I believed water baptism was a requirement to being a follower of Christ. Thus, I was sucked into it as well. I know better now. There is only one baptism, not TWO.

The Apostle Paul understood and taught this. Notice what he says at Eph 4:4-5:

"There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called;  one Lord, one faith, one baptism;…"

See Article: "One Baptism

Daz, it is your choice: water or Holy Spirit.

Hopefully, you will chose the latter.

When you do, you have accepted a great truth. This places you on the path to listen to more truths about God and Christ (which are painful and difficult to hear and accept, but are the truth). Once you accept them, you will be FULL of Holy Spirit. That is, FULL of TRUTH because you will have accepted the full measure of Christs teachings. The religious systems of the world – especially – Christianity teaches what sounds good and easy to listen to and accept. That is not how Christs teachings operate. His teachings are INITIALLY difficult to listen to and accept. At hearing them, they will war with you on the inside. Why? Because his truth will upset the false teachings within. Like demons being agitated at the presence of Jesus.

It is very easy to listen to and accept the lie of water baptism. But not easy to listen to and accept the ONE TRUE BAPTISM: Christ baptism with Holy Spirit.

Knowing truth will make you an enemy of the world and its religions and those within them. 

That there is one baptism – not two – which one do you think you chose?

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